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    Philosophy Thread [Topic 3]

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    Yes, because it still sends out soundwaves. Deaf people can't hear things, yet the thing that they should be hearing still exists.

    Also, it should be debate thread, not philosophy thread, and the thing we are debating sucks.

    And to answer Person 1's debate - is anything proveably real? We could all be brains in jars, or you guys could all be robots and I could be in a massive test. You never know.
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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    Very Berkeley. But I'm going to have to disagree with your statement, sound is simply an irrefutable fact, even without hearing it, we can measure, we know what creates it and we know it is there, even when we do not experience it first hand.


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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    But really isn't sound just waves through the air that our brain processes and turns into a recognizale tone?
    So if there is no brain to process the info, it's not really making a noise.
    And I suppose it kind of depends on your definition of "sound".
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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Swagg
    But really isn't sound just waves through the air that our brain processes and turns into a recognizale tone?
    So if there is no brain to process the info, it's not really making a noise.
    And I suppose it kind of depends on your definition of "sound".
    It would make a sound, but not make a noise. I messed up. Sound generally accounts for both THE soundwaves being given off AND the replication of the vibrations into an audible noise.
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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    My new favorite thread.

    I guess it depends on what you think is a sound. If you think a sound is the interpretation of the waves, like the person above me, then no, its not making a sound. However, if you think that sound is the sound waves themselves, then yes it is making a sound.

    I guess it's whatever the majority says what a 'sound' is, as most things are in life.
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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound

    ''Sound is a travelling wave which is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas, composed of frequencies within the range of hearing and of a level sufficiently strong to be heard, or the sensation stimulated in organs of hearing by such vibrations.''

    So, technically and widespread sound is a wave that travels and your ear picks up those vibrations, right? So if you weren't there, the soundwaves would still have existed, the vibrations would still have existed. It's just that nothing or nobody was there to pick up on them.

    If a tree falls in a wood that nobody hears? Does it make a sound? Technically so, yes.

    ''Yes, it does. Sound is mechanical energy. And sound will be created when the tree falls. If no one is there to hear it, that does not negate the fact that the sound was created and radiates out from where the tree fell.


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    I place my hand on the fire. It burns me. What you guys are saying is if I hadn't placed my hand on the fire it would never have had the capability to burn me.

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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    Man, you have 9 posts and you're already one of my favorite members.

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    It would. I am sure there is more then one person out there without any nerves in their system due to decay or disease.

    Lets use this as an counter-arguement:

    If a blind person does not see something, does it not exist?

    We all know the answer, and it applies to your original question. Then again, can you prove anything is real at all?
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    Re: Philosophy Thread

    Again, my opinion is that sound is your interpretation of those waves, not the waves themselves. No doubt they exist, whether we hear them or not, but their not making sound if theres no eardrum to pickp the vibrations.
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