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    Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Ok, so i recorded an HD video of TF2 with fraps. I imported the video to Sony Vegas, on Sony Vegas, the video is of an ultra shitty quality. But when i watch the video itself on Windows Media Player. Its a great quality, so someone please help.
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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Maybe it's just because the preview screen is shitty, try rendering it and see if it's the right quality. It could also be that your dimension settings aren't right, like 4:3 instead of 16:9.

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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lympha
    Maybe it's just because the preview screen is shitty, try rendering it and see if it's the right quality. It could also be that your dimension settings aren't right, like 4:3 instead of 16:9.
    Rendered as AVI, the video is of an alot better quality. But the file size is big as fuck. I can't upload this crap to YT. Anymore suggestions would be really nice.
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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Render it as mp4 or flv/f4v.
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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darren
    Render it as mp4 or flv/f4v.
    I can't find FLV, also, when i render as MP4, i can't watch the video. Even with QuickTime player. i am on windows 7 btw.
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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Get VLC. Quicktime is crap.

    It's likely you're watching the video in "draft" in the preview player. It's probable your PC won't be able to stream anything higher than "preview quality", so try setting it to something higher than draft and if there is a jump in quality, it's that.

    I strongly suggest mp4 for YouTube, as it's what they re-render to upon upload anyway (or so I believe). The filesize is controlled by the bitrate. I wouldn't recommend going much lower than 4,000,000 when rendering or you see a loss in quality. 4mil should give you decent picture, though, and manageable file sizes. I find above 8,000,000 is pointless as the quality doesn't improve.

    I don't know how adept you are with rendering so that might not mean much to you, but just in case it does... yeah.


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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by .Titanium
    Quote Originally Posted by Darren
    Render it as mp4 or flv/f4v.
    I can't find FLV, also, when i render as MP4, i can't watch the video. Even with QuickTime player. i am on windows 7 btw.
    A few questions:

    What Sony Vegas are you using?
    What MP4 setting are you using?

    I ask these questions because the later Sony Vegas releases include better video formats and codecs that you can use to make rendering high-quality video a lot easier and a lot more managable. Not to mention, in Sony Vegas 11, there are a few different MP4 video formats and some of them are viewable without the need of VLC Player or Quicktime. This is coming from personal experience because if you are using the one that I think you are, then it's obvious that it won't work since it's technically only capable with Apple based software. There is a video format under MP4 that will allow you to play it in Windows Media Center or Windows Media Player because all my older videos were in that format and I never once used Quicktime or installed it until I needed the plugin for Sony Vegas.

    Personally, I render out in WMV since the things I do are not as graphically intensive as Team Fortress 2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZsSLcvFWfc
    In his video description, there are some render settings that can be used.
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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faded
    Quote Originally Posted by .Titanium
    Quote Originally Posted by Darren
    Render it as mp4 or flv/f4v.
    I can't find FLV, also, when i render as MP4, i can't watch the video. Even with QuickTime player. i am on windows 7 btw.
    A few questions:

    What Sony Vegas are you using?
    What MP4 setting are you using?

    I ask these questions because the later Sony Vegas releases include better video formats and codecs that you can use to make rendering high-quality video a lot easier and a lot more managable. Not to mention, in Sony Vegas 11, there are a few different MP4 video formats and some of them are viewable without the need of VLC Player or Quicktime. This is coming from personal experience because if you are using the one that I think you are, then it's obvious that it won't work since it's technically only capable with Apple based software. There is a video format under MP4 that will allow you to play it in Windows Media Center or Windows Media Player because all my older videos were in that format and I never once used Quicktime or installed it until I needed the plugin for Sony Vegas.

    Personally, I render out in WMV since the things I do are not as graphically intensive as Team Fortress 2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZsSLcvFWfc
    In his video description, there are some render settings that can be used.
    i use Sony Vegas 10, and i actually don't wand to update because i am "really used" to Vegas 10. Also, thanks for the vid mate. I'll see what render settings he uses.
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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    If you render the video as an AVI and then use some software to compress it would it be more managable?

    If you are going to use compression software I would recommend Handbrake as it compresses it with no loss of quality.

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    Re: Sony Vegas and Fraps are not happy friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minifrij
    If you render the video as an AVI and then use some software to compress it would it be more managable?

    If you are going to use compression software I would recommend Handbrake as it compresses it with no loss of quality.
    In a sense, yes. I personally don't like rendering out in .avi because sometimes the size gets out of hand and it takes longer to upload to places like YouTube. You can still get amazing quality in .wmv and .mp4 if you know what you're doing before you render out the final product.

    As for compression software, I use VirtualDUB. It's compatible with several diffferent codecs and is probably a lot more user friendly.
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